17 Australia has led the way in common law jurisdictions in moving in favour of interviewing children. As early as in 1995, the Australian Law Reform Commission was tasked with a comprehensive inquiry into children and the legal process. Its report, Seen and heard: priority for children in the legal process (Comm Ref ALRC 84, 1997) at para 16.32, recommended a training programme for judges on inquisitorial approaches to determining the child’s best interests along with suitable guidelines to assist them in this regard. In the more recent decade, it has also been reported that the judges in New Zealand appear to have become more positive about the practice of judicial interviewing of children and less anxious about the risks (John Caldwell, “Common law judges and judicial interviewing” (2011) 23 Child and Family Law Quarterly 41).

18 There are good reasons for the court to ascertain directly the views of the children by speaking to them. Kathryn Kuehnle, Lyn R Greenberg, and Michael C Gottlieb have espoused the view in their article “Incorporating the Principles of Scientifically Based Child Interviews into Family Law Cases” (2004) 1(1) Journal of Child Custody 97 that (at p 98):

19 In my view, abandoning judicial interviews with children altogether due to concerns over their limitations and risks, is to throw the baby out with the bathwater. In the Court of Appeal decision of ZO v ZP and another appeal [2011] 3 SLR 647 (“ZO v ZP”), Andrew Phang Boon Leong JA observed that (at [16]):

20 I am of the view that judicial conversations with children are very useful, and the way forward must be to equip judges with the necessary skills, provide an environment most conducive to an effective process and eliminate or reduce as many of the risks as possible. Judges ought to be aware of the limitations and give the appropriate weight to the views expressed in judicial conversations with children.

21 The court’s discretion whether to interview the children should be exercised for the children's welfare, in the light of all the circumstances. Pursuant to this discretion, a judge may even choose to interview the children on his or her own motion without an application being made by either parent. Section 125(2) of the Women’s Charter specifically directs the court to have regard to the wishes of the child of sufficient maturity to express her opinion:

22 I do not think that having the children speak to a judge necessarily draws them into the fray of the parties’ contentious proceedings. Many children in family proceedings have already witnessed and continue to witness parental conflict as they interact with their separated parents. Giving them the opportunity to express their views to a judge who will be making orders directly affecting their lives might in fact provide them a window out of the seemingly endless on-going parental conflict.

23 While legal systems which are traditionally adversarial in character may find it more difficult to cope with keeping part or all of judicial interviews confidential, our current family justice system has taken on a more robust approach to protecting the welfare of the children. Although it is at its core an adversarial legal system, our family justice system has taken on a more inquisitorial character. The Committee for Family Justice indicated in its report Recommendations of the Committee for Family Justice on the framework of the family justice system (4 July 2014) (“The Committee Report”) at para 141 that:

This judge-led approach in resolving family disputes has been adopted in Part 3 of the Family Justice Rules 2014 (Act 27 of 2014) (“the Family Justice Rules”). A judge is obliged to place the welfare of the child as its paramount consideration and is empowered to use a proactive approach to reach orders that serve the interests of the child. Even prior to the enactment of the more inquisitorial approach in the Family Justice Rules, the Court of Appeal in ZO v ZP had accepted the usefulness of judicial interviews of children (at [15]):

24 The judicial interview of children should remain an important option within our family justice system which employs the judge-led approach to proactively manage cases and protect the welfare of children. It may be used if the judge considers it appropriate in furthering the interests of the children. The paramount consideration is, at the end of the day, the welfare of the child. However, judges are not compelled to interview children. There may be legitimate concerns if a judge is uncomfortable with speaking to a child, or is unaware of the limitations of such judicial interviews. Interviewing children may not always be the best way to proceed, for much depends on the specific circumstances. There are limitations to such an exercise, and it is prudent to bear in mind that useful information can also be obtained from the parents, lawyers, a Child Representative or a mental health professional. The availability of such options should also assuage any concerns that judges may have in “drawing children into the fray” of contentious legal proceedings through interviewing them directly. The court can order reports such as a Social Welfare Report, Custody Evaluation Report, Access Evaluation Report, Assisted Access Report to be produced with the assistance of professionals from the appropriate disciplines. Further, ss 27 and 28 of the Family Justice Act 2014 (No 27 of 2014) give judges the powers to appoint assessors. It can appoint a registered medical practitioner, psychologist, counsellor, social worker or mental health professional to examine and assess the child for the purposes of preparing expert evidence for use in proceedings. Rule 30 of the Family Justice Rules allows the court, if it thinks it is in the children's best interests, to appoint a Child Representative, whose role is to “represent the child’s views and best interests in court proceedings, thus helping to ensure that the decisions eventually made by the court are in the child’s best interests” (The Committee Report at para 163). Through these various avenues, children can express their views to the judges directly or through professionals entrusted by the court to represent their interests and views. These are not mutually exclusive, and all are important options in giving the court reliable information about the children’s views and wishes.

25 When judges do decide to interview children, the interviews can be very helpful to a judge who is making orders for the welfare of these very children she meets. When judges are aware of the limitations and reservations set out earlier, they can place appropriate weight on the children’s views as they see fit. I have found the suggestions in Nicholas Bala et al, “Children’s Voices in Family Court: Guidelines for Judges Meeting Children” (2013) 47(3) Family Law Quarterly 379 to be helpful. There is a reminder to the judge to ask open-ended questions and to avoid leading questions or those which may cause the child to choose between her parents. A judge should consider the age and maturity of the children, whether the children have indicated their wish to speak to the judge, and whether they were pressurised by a parent to do so. A judge is exhorted to seek to listen to the children as much as possible, bearing in mind that children often feel loyalty conflicts or guilty about their parents’ separation. Children may also be expressing strongly negative views about one parent which has been alienated from him or her by the other parent.

26 In the present case, I chose to interview the children for several reasons. First, there were indications that they wished to speak with me. Second, they were mature enough to express their views on matters that impacted their lives. Third, I did not think that interviewing them would be dragging them into the fray. On the contrary, I thought that it would be beneficial to give the children the opportunity to express their views directly to me. I found that the children were genuinely keen to speak to me, and I found the session very helpful.

27 The Father contended that the Mother’s application was an abuse of process as it was filed very soon after the High Court Judge had dismissed her application. He pointed out that she had already asked for the children to be interviewed in the last application and she was relying on the same facts which were already considered by the High Court Judge.

28 It is necessary to consider the provision upon which the Mother’s application was founded in determining if her application was an abuse of process. Section 128 of the Women’s Charter permits applications for a variation of custody orders:

Professor Leong explains the underlying basis for the court’s power to vary or discharge a custody, care and control and access order (Leong Wai Kum, Principles of Family Law in Singapore (Butterworths Asia, 1997) at p 584):

29 In my view, if there has been a change in circumstances since the application which warrants a variation of the orders, there will be a genuine case for variation under s 128 of the Women’s Charter, and the application will not be an abuse of process. The issues are inter-related, and on the facts, I did not think that the Mother’s present application was an abuse of the court’s process. The court should not readily find applications brought under s 128 of the Women’s Charter to be an abuse of its process unless on the broad, merits-based test in Kwa Ban Cheong v Kuah Boon Sek [2003] 3 SLR(R) 644 (“Kwa Ban Cheong”), it is clear that the applicant was behaving vexatiously and making the application to oppress the other party. Belinda Ang Saw Ean J proffered in Kwa Ban Cheong that (at [25]–[29]):

30 In Goh Nellie v Goh Lian Teck and others [2007] 1 SLR(R) 453, Sundaresh Menon JC (as he then was) held that (at [53]):

31 Applications to vary or discharge existing custody and access arrangements brought within a short span of time from the last application may not necessarily be conclusive of an abuse of the court’s process. It may well be that in some cases, repeated and frequent applications for a variation of care and control are symptomatic of a vexatious litigant wanting to frustrate the plans of the other party. The determination of whether an application is an abuse of process depends on the facts and circumstances of the case. In applications to vary children’s arrangements, it is conceivable that significant changes to the parties’ lives can take place within a short period of time. Such changes include a parent obtaining a new residence in which the children can have a comfortable place to live in or enjoy access, or a parent finding a job in which there is greater flexibility of working hours. There can also be “negative” developments within a short period of time which may necessitate a change in arrangements, such as a parent succumbing to a debilitating illness.

32 Relationships are dynamic. A parent who is not emotionally close to a child at the time an access order is made may, through time, build a much closer relationship with the child subsequently. For example, a young three-year old child may have been clingy to his mother at the time the court orders care and control to the mother and limited access to the father. As the child grows older and builds a closer relationship with his father, it may be in his welfare to encourage increased access when he is, say, five years old. The child may have outgrown the phase of high dependence on and clinginess to his mother. There may not have been any one particular identifiable event that marks a material change in circumstances between the time he was three and five years old, but because relationships are dynamic, circumstances may have sufficiently changed such that a variation is warranted for his welfare. Hence, the court ought not to read s 128 of the Women’s Charter too narrowly, but should take both a principled and pragmatic approach to the determination of a material change in circumstances.

33 My holding should not encourage parties to make variation applications based on material changes in circumstances when there is in fact none, just because they are not satisfied with the original order. I am ever mindful of the need to ensure that children have stability in living arrangements and the settled presence of their parents in their lives. It is not in the welfare of the children to have their parents constantly applying to the court for new arrangements when there is no genuine need for review. A party who is dissatisfied with an order may pursue the path of an appeal to a higher court.

34 This brings me to another point which I think is worth noting. It may be prudent for the court to consider including an order for a review of the case, say, in six months or a year from the date of the order, so that it can ensure that the orders made continue to serve the children’s welfare. This is because families which are in the midst of divorce proceedings and its aftermath may require some time to reach more stable and durable parent-child arrangements. A review offers the opportunity to review what has worked and conversely, where the difficulties lie, to improve on the arrangements. Further, as I have said earlier, relationships are dynamic, even unpredictable, and often, an adjustment to arrangements may better serve the children’s welfare even in the absence of an identifiable event or group of events that constitute a material change in circumstances. The court is best placed to decide if a review is appropriate.

35 In my view, the Mother’s present application disclosed certain developments which constitute a material change in circumstances for the purposes of variation of the orders. My conversations with the children have corroborated this finding. The Mother had obtained a comfortable place of residence in a condominium when she previously had none. She had also found stable employment, and made good progress with respect to the issue of her Internet addiction. The children have told me how much they enjoyed access at the new condominium. This was a material change in circumstances which I considered highly relevant in my decision to vary the access order to include overnight access.

36 Although the Mother had shown that there was a material change in circumstances, I was not prepared to vary the order on care and control. However, I was satisfied that it was in the children’s welfare to increase the access time with their mother.

37 The Mother appeared sincere when she said that she wanted to cooperate with the Father in raising the children. She expressed that she would encourage the children to spend time with the Father and that he should be equally involved in their lives. She told the court that both she and the Father had their strengths and weaknesses as parents, opining that the Father instilled structure and discipline in the children’s lives while she was more nurturing. She also acknowledged that the Father had done an excellent job in giving the children a structured environment in which they were now thriving. The Father’s counsel, however, disagreed with the Mother’s description of their relationship and pointed to various statements in her affidavits where she had alleged that the Father was uncooperative and had sought to alienate the children from her.

38 Having weighed the accounts of both parties and considered the views of the children, I was of the view that the Mother’s account of her attempts to cooperate with the Father was convincing. Her affidavit contained email correspondence between her and the Father, which showed that she had tried to communicate with him in a polite and civil manner on matters concerning the children’s affairs and had tried to work out the children’s arrangements amicably with the Father. The children had expressed that they enjoyed their access time with the Mother, and I found that the Mother had made good use of the access time to bond with the children and to build a loving relationship with them. There was also evidence of the Mother’s involvement in communicating with the children’s school teachers.

39 In my view, the Father was also a dedicated parent who had put in place a stable and structured environment for the children. I found that the children love him, and are thriving in his care. While there was some level of parental conflict between the Father and Mother, I did not think that there were deliberate efforts from either parent to alienate the children from the other. I was of the view that it would be in the children’s welfare for the Father to continue to have care and control, and for the Mother to be granted increased and overnight access to the children. This is so that the children can interact even more meaningfully with the Mother, who undoubtedly adds a dimension of parenting which is invariably different from what the Father can offer.

40 In the circumstances, I varied the orders as follows:

(a) On alternate weekends, the Mother shall have overnight access from Saturday 10am to Sunday 6pm.

(b) In addition, the Mother will have access on alternate Fridays (the Friday preceding the Saturday when the Mother does not have access) from 6 pm to 9 pm.

(c) The Mother should be flexible in the exercise of access – if any of the children express that they have activities or homework to complete on any Friday night, she is to be flexible in accommodating their schedules.

I also ordered that a review be fixed before me in six months’ time.

41 I urged the parties to improve on their cooperation with each other for the sake of their children. It is well documented in scholarly articles that parental conflict has a substantive negative impact on children, and it was clear to me from my meeting with the children that they loved both their parents and desired to spend time with both of them within a practical arrangement. Therefore, both parents must give their best efforts in managing their own conflicts with each other and communicate with each other with respect and courtesy. I cannot emphasize enough that both parents have parental responsibility and must cooperate to ensure the welfare of the children.

42 It is apt that I conclude with a particularly poignant passage from Children's views of shared time, parenting and security post-separation at pp 15–16 (supra at [3]), which summarizes what children of separated parents need and long for, like any other child does:

Parents, in discharging their parental responsibility, should endeavour to help the other parent to be the best parent possible under the circumstances, for this is in the children’s welfare.